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26 January 2006 @ 01:33 pm
It could happen.

Firefly Season 2 On Demand?

Go forth and express your interest, then make the word spread.

Let go Let go Let Really go: Big Damn Love - by cannons_fanmaudgonne on January 26th, 2006 10:43 am (UTC)

I don't really believe it will happen, but man. That would be so awesome. I filled out the survey, so I guess I've done my part.
elzed: not fucking aroundelzed on January 26th, 2006 10:54 am (UTC)
Much as I love the idea, I just don't see how they could be at the point where they're discussing formats for distribution - PC? Mac? Streaming? Come on - this "independent production company" pursuing the rights to the series... I don't know, it seems so flimsy. We're a long way from getting anywhere near the goal. I mean, yes, collecting info about potential audiences to pitch their bid, perhaps, but while that sounds potentially legit, there is so little actual information about their project on the site. And everything they say is shrouded in possibles and maybes... No promises.

Sorry, elle, perhaps I'm a little too cynical and suspicious, but this looks to me like people gathering marketing info about Firefly fans with absolutely no evidence that they are anything but information collectors. No name, no contact, no nothing. And yes, perhaps they're wary of releasing contact details to a Firefly hungry mob of devoted fans, but... it smells a little fishy to me.

I'm always, by definition, suspicious of websites that ask for personal information of any kind - as you well know it's gold dust to marketeers, and just not worth putting details in.

Nice website, though. And if they really are looking to pitch a second series, well, I may be eating my hat. It just seems too much like tapping into the desperation of the fans...
Let go Let go Let Really go: Zoe Silence by nihl_estmaudgonne on January 26th, 2006 11:06 am (UTC)
I didn't enter name or email or anything that identifies me - just the non-personal stuff. All fields were optional. I don't blame you for being suspicious - I think it's all highly unlikely.

But wouldn't it be awesome?
elzedelzed on January 26th, 2006 11:54 am (UTC)
Awesome and a half. I would totally sign up for more Captain Hotpants beamed to my PC.

*closes eyes and smiles dreamily at the thought*

Well, one can only hope, right?
Mary Lewys: Business Tiemlewys on January 26th, 2006 11:15 am (UTC)
*chuckles* I'm a nosey fuck.

firefly2.com is registered to:

Brilliant Screen Entertainment
2005 N. 103rd Ave
Avondale, AZ 85323

Administrative Contact:
Underhill, Ace info@brilliantscreen.com
2005 N. 103rd Ave
Avondale, AZ 85323

Domain servers in listed order:

So, if we wander over and look at newmillenniumholdings.com:

Intelligent Global Solutions
27 Old Gloucester Street
London, London WC1N 3XX

Administrative Contact:
Rabalais, Chris chrisr@allsportsmarket.com
27 Old Gloucester Street
London, London WC1N 3XX

Mmmm. England is the hosting company. How interesting. I checked Whedonesque, but there's nothing there about it.

Here's a list of things Brilliant Screen has done:


Mmmmm. They don't look fly-by-night. But then again, they're not very detailed in what they did for the BBC documentary.

I should call.
elzedelzed on January 26th, 2006 11:57 am (UTC)
Thanks for the leg work, dude. I have to say that perhaps they're not quite a shifty as I thought they might be, but they're not either quite as far into their project as they would like their audience to believe.

And Ace Underhill's sketchy references to BBC documentaries just make my hackles rise. If you were involved with a programme, or a series, just fucking name it and stop using the Beeb's name as a handy password.


Also, the pic with the DeLorean? He is obviously a bit of a twat, isn't he?

Mary Lewysmlewys on January 26th, 2006 12:34 pm (UTC)
*chuckles* If anything, he's a fan with industry contacts. I wonder how much, as his company's located out of Arizona. It's an unfornuate fact that if you want to do movies, you have to be in Hollywood (to start with to begin with).

I think the DeLorean was for a documentary or something. I did find something else about where he posted looking for a bank that was film industry knowledgable for an upcoming project, but that was back in 2002.

*chuckles* Like I said. I'm a nosey fuck.
elzedelzed on January 26th, 2006 12:48 pm (UTC)
Hee. And I'm a journalist.

*chuckles back*

I tend to agree it smells more like fan with some industry contacts. The AZ address does sound a bit far out of the loop for the movies, too.

I think pipedream with a bit more chutzpah than most, but I would be extremely surprised if it came to anything concrete...
Mary Lewysmlewys on January 26th, 2006 01:06 pm (UTC)
I used to be a journalist. *grins* As you can see, some things never go away (like finding shit out).

I'm really tempted to contact "Ace" and grill him a little to find out what's what. But, then again, I am interested with the ways television is changing. I don't doubt things will go more to an "on demand" market eventually, but I think it's too soon to convince a network to back it.

I tend to dislike people taking advantage of fans (and fans taking advantage of the industry and its professionals). But, I'll be interested to see what Mr. Whedon says.
elzedelzed on January 26th, 2006 12:45 pm (UTC)
And I may well call the London number tomorrow and see what I can suck out of them... Although to be fair, there's bound to be more to say at the AZ end of things. Still, would love to know more about their BBC experience.
Mary Lewysmlewys on January 26th, 2006 01:07 pm (UTC)
Yeah. I'm curious as to why Brilliant Screen is using Intelligent Global Solutions server space.
i_aldarion on January 26th, 2006 11:20 am (UTC)
Mary Lewysmlewys on January 26th, 2006 11:23 am (UTC)
More searching:


"There has been quite a brouhaha about the latest attempt at resurrecting Firefly. Hopefully I can shed some light on the situation. I spoke with the folks at FireflySeason2.com earlier this week. And at the time I believed it to be a legitimate effort with a decent chance of success (certainly better than most). Bloggers have since pointed out some concerns with “Ace Underhill,’ the guy behind the effort. Based on my conversation and later correspondence with Ace , I believe him to be genuinely interested in bringing the show back. Some may disagree with his methods, but I do not NOT think it’s an out-and-out scam, as has been suggested in the blogosphere. So I’m asking you all to approach this with cautious optimism. As soon as I learn more, I will let you know."

He responded at http://www.serenitymovie.org/browncoats/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1580

Q: Is this some sort of scam, I mean, you're sure asking for alot of sensitive personal information on your survey.
A: No. In fact, none of the fields, not even your email address, is required to submit. In that regards, if some kind of scam could be had by learning how many Hi-Def TVs are in your zip code, I'd love to know. Joking aside, this information is important in defining the direction of FFS2. But submit at your own risk and peril! If the information about you going to see "Serenity" got into the wrong hands... oh the humanity!

Q: Why are you asking for money?
A: We're not, you're confused. The cost of this project comes from our own bankroll, not the fans. There was a site, BrowncoatsRiseAgain.com that was accepting donations for a short period of time, but refunded everyone's money. I met with the organizers of that site a few days ago. Andrew and Ty are both standup guys, and great fans. I was so impressed by their operation and fervor that I will be bringing them onboard with FFS2. Another great fan that I've been in contact with is Jeremy from DoneTheImpossible.com and I've been keeping him close to this project as well. I never asked him to be a "cheerleader" but I appreciate his efforts at trying to maintain a semblance of calm and order here until I could reply.

Q: Will Joss be involved?
A: The 'Verse without it's creator? Please, let's not be absurd. But Joss is very busy at the moment. We are taking care of all the mundane tasks and legwork that is required to untangle the legal issues to save Joss from any undue headaches. After all, it's really tough to be creative when you're surrounded by expensive lawyers.

Q: Will anyone from Season 1 or "Serenity" be involved?
A: We are in contact with many of the original cast and crew, but that's all that I'm allowed to say at this time. Official notices will be posted on the site as they are cleared.

Q: Will the timeline of Season 2 take place before or after the events in "Serenity"?
A: That's for Joss and the creative folk to decide, I'm just the guy with the checkbook.

Q: Why do people flame you and your cause when it's obvious you're just trying to give them something they want?
A: That's a tough psychological question that I'm not qualified to answer. Perhaps they really care about their dream and too many people have "cried-wolf" in the past.

And I was wrong about this being up at Whedoneque:


His listing in IMDB: http://imdb.com/name/nm1429656/

Kind of a bio at Journeyman Pictures: http://www.journeymanpictures.com/bios.htm

And here's his picture: http://www.dmcnews.com/potm/Ace.jpg
High-velocity pie of death: boomsticknixieq on January 26th, 2006 11:29 am (UTC)
done and fucking done. thanks for the link -- reposting NOW.
Xiphias Gladiusxiphias on January 26th, 2006 11:35 am (UTC)
I just don't see it. I mean, Joss basically got to pretty much where he wanted to in storytelling -- not as happily or smoothly as he wanted; he clearly wanted to do a LOT more with Blue Sun, and THEIR relationship to River, which was totally dropped -- but I don't see that Joss has that much more that he really feels he HAS to tell. Ron Glass and Alan Tudyk would both feel really hurt by this, in that there's no real way to have them involved, and they both loved working on the show.

The actors, in general, are moving on to other things. I mean, they all love Firefly, and would certainly make another movie if they had the chance, but I don't know how they would feel about an experimental distribution format series. It's a lot of work and a great deal of risk for relatively little reward.

I hope it works out, but I don't expect it to.